Mythocentric posted at 9:55PM Thu, 16 June 2016 - #4272693

What has been suggested is that any reasonably competent vendor should have no difficulty creating for both formats, and many do, and thus widening their market and profits!

It's easy for someone that doesn't to make products to assume, but as a vendor that used to make products in both formats, V4 and Genesis, years before most people here, this statement is absolutely not true. This is especially not true in light that both platforms use different tech and formats, especially for custom morphs and are UV incompatible. The gap is simply too wide now to be profitable. The most popular figure now for DS users as you have seen is Genesis 3, and there's no easy way to make figure that covers that and another generation, not without a complicated process of copying and cleaning up morphs which you need an expensive tool like modo and zbrush to accomplish in light of no update to the tool currently to do this in DS. And making for both platforms only marginally increase sales. DAZ vendors have already tried this model and it wasn't that workable when they used the DSON importer, making and rigging items from scratch is even less workable.

The reason for this thread is that Renderosity appears to have become overbalanced in the direction of Daz without giving thought for those people who prefer Poser, and there are a lot of them out there despite your claim to the contrary.

But how can they give a thought about Poser users when the figures don't work there? I'm sure you're addressing the Genesis 3 products? Once again, that's not something rendo can address without supressing a market and vendor products. Once again customers request these products, and only SM can address getting vendors tools to address this. And to be honest, Hivewire isn't a good example as most of the vendors haven't touched that figure after the loss of sales with the release of dawn about two years ago. Customers didn't want it, vendors lost sales (and those vendors at the time only made Poser only-versions here not cross platform, except for one or two exceptions). Their animals probably sell better than the figure content, but most of the major vendors found that creating a product twice doesn't make up for sales

Witness the success of sites like Hivewire who manage to produce content which is mostly, in the main, available for both formats.

There's vendors at hivewire that do it, but a good chunk of those vendors now are actually part time novice forum users selling products, not established vendors. If you check those threads, you'll quickly see them stumble over how to make their products work in both platforms. Those users are the only ones that are capable of doing cross platform because they have other jobs to supplement their income so they can try to make such items.

Its also worth mentioning that that site now sells content from former RDNA vendors who were dumped by Daz (Bought out by Daz and not simply closed as you claim) because they preferred to stay with Poser (and one of the reasons given for the buyout was that Daz intended to redress the balance by expanding its Poser content!)

Not true. Please don't spread misinformation. Vendors like mortemvetus are at DAZ and they're making Poser items, DAZ even featured him in a sale a few days ago. Star is there as well as Chip and other poser characters. If they aren't there it's because either they chose not to go to DAZ. Also it also should be said that a good chunk of RDNA vendors were ALREADY at DAZ as PAs, so their stores moved over. I know there was at least one exception, but I won't get into that, you can do some digging and find his thread here complaining about it (which also basically showed why his products weren't brought over).

and, of late, former Renderosity vendors who have become dissatisfied with the way their (Poser) output is being sidelined by this site.

Can't answer to this portion though, but i'm going to say you're speculating about poser content statement. Hivewire has a WAAAY smaller sales scope so a vendor would be shooting themselves in the foot to move to a site way smaller visibility.

Perhaps it may be worth your while going back and reading the whole of this thread, this time with an open, unbiased mind before presenting a reasoned response rather than shooting yourself in the other foot!

Actually I've read the whole thread and have been reading this thread for a while. This is why it is so easy to dissect your posts. You're simply not understanding how the market place works despite being told several times.