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Subject: V4 vs Genesis

Judyco2 opened this issue on Apr 30, 2016 ยท 21 posts


Seliah posted Fri, 17 June 2016 at 3:24 PM

I still work with, and create for, the Generation 4's, as I use them in conjunction WITH my Genesis 1.

I don't hardly even touch the Genesis 2's or Genesis 3's. Yes, I'm a DS creator and artist, but I also provide Poser support if it's at all possible for me to do. If you don't believe that, just check HW's forums, and look at Nataani's development thread.

I never was overly fond of the Generation 4's, to be honest, but I do still use them - and support them - today. I also still use my old Generation 3's and sometimes even the Generation 2's. Heck, there's times where I dig out my old P4 male and female to use! Old and obsolete does not mean utterly useless.

That said, however - if the Daz Genesis figure products were not selling, IMO vendors would not continue to be making products for them.

Give the un-solvable divide at the moment in terms of the Gen5+ not functioning in Poser, and the DS artists wanting to use them while the Poser folks still want to make use of the Gen4's... IMO, the best thing we can do right now is to just aim for more of an even keel of support for both figures.

Any product or freebie I make for Genesis 1, if I can make it compatible somehow with the Gen4's, I do. And that's the best that any vendor or freebie maker can do with this situation.

The choice to support, or not support, any figure is up to the individual creator. I personally greatly enjoy working with Genesis 1. I despise the G2's and the G3's. I like Dawn and Dusk and Luna. I support the figures that I enjoy working with. I have gotten used to M4 and V4, but I really don't like either of them. However, they are definitely better figures than M3 and V3 ever were, and yes, I do support them when it is possible for me to do.

We have two programs on the market. Daz Studio, and Poser. DS can make use of almost any Poser content that is produced. The same can NOT be said for Poser. This makes supporting both programs rather difficult at times for creators. And for those of us who only have the standard version of Poser, and cannot throw down two hundred or more dollars to move to a Pro version, having basically none of the content creation tools available (when they are free in Studio), further discourages additional support of Poser on the part of some creators. I came very close myself to completely dropping Poser support. An item that takes me maybe two weeks to put together and release for DS, takes me three to four MONTHS to get right in Poser. That's an insanely high production timeline. It's nuts.

I think at some point in the future, the two programs are going to end up completely splitting away from each other. I think it's only going to continue to get harder and harder to support both software, and at some point the products for one will not work in the other and vice versa. The introduction of the Genesis line was the beginning of that. Am I happy about that? No. No, I'm not. If I was, I would have already fully dropped all Poser support.

I'll continue to support the Gen4's as long as there's an interest in them, and I'll continue to do Poser support for my items (free or otherwise) as much as I possibly can. But if I can't produce a functional, good quality item for Poser, then I can't produce it, and it's just going to have to be DS-only. I won't put out anything that's half-schlocked just to claim it supports both programs. I don't care if the item is a freebie or a commercial product. If the quality can't be achieved, I don't put it out.

So long as I'm able to support both figure lines, and both softwares, I will. But I have to tell you, to be blunt, dealing with Poser is absolutely infuriating for me, and I can't stand the software. So anything I make that comes with Poser support, you can pretty much guarantee it's run me several months of fighting and pulling my hair out in order to make it work in that software for you. Poser is NOT intuitive for me anymore (and I did use it faithfully from versions 4 through 7, and then again on 10). It makes my brain hurt, and it drives me up a wall. I do it because I don't like to leave anyone out. But it's very HARD for me to work with, and does not exactly endear itself to consistent content production for me. Even when I was selling on Content Paradise, my DS content sold much, much better than my Poser content. And that's SM's home marketplace.

Those are just my own thoughts, as a long-time freebie maker, and small-time vendor.