I have to say V4 is the way to go for Poser users, she has her faults but she has and still does render superbly, it is no wonder vendors still make skins for her as her facial features IMHO beat anything G3 G2 G1 have ever been able to do - I have used G2 a lot and apart from her more perfected stomach morphs she looks like she's undergone severe plastic surgery, I also have not seen a realistic skin and facial looking G3 either, sure Daz show you how amazing she renders and if I used Daz then I would be prepared to wait 24 hours for a render as amazing as they make her in there pics, I prefer Poser so V4 is still the girl for me! And welcome back Trekkie