Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: Are people still using V4?

TrekkieGrrrl opened this issue on May 17, 2016 ยท 173 posts


ssgbryan posted Mon, 04 July 2016 at 2:15 PM

tonyvilters posted at 11:29AM Mon, 04 July 2016 - #4274557

Hey wolf?? G3 is for another forum. So sorry, but we work in Poser with Poser figures and Poser content. Thank you.

99.99% of the end users have TONS invested in V4. Those that want to use G3 can freely go to DS (that is also free) And wanna know a secret? LOL. They have their own forms too. LOL.

Tony, you can always depend on the self-appointed Daz Defenders to appear in ANY Poser thread where we are talking about any figure. And no, they aren't going to help the poor people up in the DS forums. They feel their time is better spent here.

There is a place for all figures (even the G figures) in Poser, although unless one buys them in "Fast Grab" or a similar promotion, they are a TCO fail.

It isn't just that we have a monetary investment in the V4 ecosystem - there is also the fact that the V4 products have both more variety and better versatility.

More characters, by several more orders of magnitude; hell even the SM G2 series of figures (Simon, Sydney, etc) had more characters made for them than either the Daz G1 or G2 series ever managed - I counted) - this is kinda important if you want anything outside of "young white girl". In all fairness, Terrance is the ONLY DS vendor that can be depended upon to make non-caucasian characters for the g figures, especially the male ones.

More morphs and morph sets, also by several more orders of magnitude, (and we mustn't forget, an entire cottage industry built around fixing the shortcomings of the V4 mesh).

More clothing by several orders of magnitude. V4 managed more clothing in the first 90 days after launch than any of the G series managed in their entire life-cycles. As an added bonus, most of them come with movement morphs, which appear to be sadly lacking in DS clothing. The other thing is the amount of additional texture sets made for clothing - before the split, when a new piece of clothing rolled out, we knew there would be half a dozen or so vendors making texture sets for that clothing. Those days are behind us, unless one is using V4 clothing content.

Then there is the added versatility, if one actually leaves the Poser 4 workflow behind and use Poser Pro as it is meant to be used in the 21st century.

I can quickly take a conforming V4 clothing item and make it dynamic (My figures can have a dress that goes below the knee, without needing to go all the way to the floor). Or I can pull it into the fitting room and fit it to any other character that has taken my fancy, like Dawn or Pauline or Antonia or Sydney or Mariko or V3 or Anastasia or Eroko or Scarlet or Roxie or Terai Yuki or Miki (any version), etc.

In my Star Trek comic, EVERYBODY is wearing the same uniform (Courageous for V4 and Valiant for M4) even though my go-to figures are the SM G2 figures (because I need normal sized people - Dusk & Dawn are my "tall folks"). Although thanks to Lyrra's scaling product, I can adjust V4/M4' height a bit easier than in the past.

As an added note - if you go to pg 288 - 293 in the Poser Manual, you get instructions on how to add facial bones to any Poser figure (including the G figures in Poser) - I find this very amusing, by the way. My G1 & G2 figures have the "new" G3 tech selling point. Although why they call it Control Props is beyond me.