Hey, thanks Varian for the typos...I guess my partner didn't see them when he edited my article! :) Mike, glad you liked the review...it might be a lot slower in the demo cause here it's not that slower than Vue except in highly detailed scenes where Vue might have an edge but both are similar. To give you an idea I rendered a 60 frames scene in about 4 hours. The scene had clouds moving quite fast over a terrain of more than 2 million polygons with a lake and it was set at Premium rendering with soft shadows, blurry reflections/transmissions and true ambiance with 64 rays per pixel at 320x192. Check it out...it's very basic though: http://www.cgfocus.com/animations/Lake.avi Regarding the trees I mentionned the lack of grass and animation of the trees, which is a bummer and you can't export trees to LW either. I will make a comparison between Vue, WB and Bryce in a few weeks and you will be surprised by the results! :) Now if 3D Nature could send me WCS as planned hehe. Cheers!