I'm into Poser since version 4. I had C4d too. Coming from scetches I started 3d with passion and excitment, knowing I am right in the middle of a rising new technologie. 3d arts has been a mistery to the majority of people around me at that time. To work with a complete 3d figure was just amaizing. Now this is 16 years ago, and we've got used to some quality standarts - even as plain hobbyists. This forum truley lost its audience at the same time I start loosing interest. It was the time, when more and more people became disapointed about Poser software. You could see it first in the galleries. Less Poser pictures, but more DAZstudio pictures. Less 3d, more photo-art. As far as I can tell, the sellings of desktop PC is decreasing also. It seems that their high performance is not a priority anymore. Maybe that 3d hype is just over. People like to play more with their smartphones today. Are they doing anything else, anyway?