oops, havent replied to this in a while. I tried all that. It didnt make a difference. i was saving it as both a pz file and in the library. Like i said, i never had a problem with the morphs before. They were always named Shape 1 or shape 2 ect, and they always worked. all of a sudden, the same morphs dont work anymore. Its so strange. Like my copy of poser decided it didnt like me anymore. lol