Thanks tonyvilters, why because I like Keiko lol and would of liked to have make clothes for her for use in poser, but at least I know why I couldn't find anything about it. Why would the customer base be small are the gens not popular, should I just stick with the V4 is that still popular, I've been away for the poser like for awhile and lost touch with everything, I'm just trying to catch up on what I've missed, thank you for telling me this