LOL, what do I see ? This is (as every time we talk Dina, I guess) just a matter of personal taste. Blackhearted, you like Vicky 2 and find her pretty. I have had Poser for something like 2 years, looked at it and never used it. Not even Vicky made me interested in that program. Then I saw Dina, and that was it. I find Dina charming and pretty. Our discussion is kind of nothing as long as we talk personal teste...pretty or not. The moment we talk about the possibilities of the figures the discussion would have content (or what ever you call it in english) and be useful, but not untill then...thats just my opinion. Sky :-)