Of course we pick and choose our fights. I too said this long ago. But the point I made, which Buddha32 immediately attacked without facts, is still being danced around. Indonesia has had those countries for fifty years. If we were to try to build a coalition in our generation to attack Indonesia -- or even unilaterally -- with the intention of driving back an anexation that took place before most of our soldiers were even born, we would be the powerful aggressor bad guy practicing naked aggression crossing borders and invading a soverign country. At the momment there are many civil wars and fights for independence WITHIN countries that in order for us to get involved with we would have to cross long standing borders. Iraq crossed long standing borders. We did not attack Iraq. We fought their soldiers back from a land they invaded during our lifetime. It was only later in the discussion that Buddha32 suddenly decided to call his line "teeny little countries get invaded every day" an expression and alter his stance to include internal conflicts and insurrections. I will say this yet again for it to be danced around: Buddha32 tried to make it sound like what happend to Kuwait regularly occurs all the time to teeny countries with no oil while we turn a blind eye. It hasn't in our generation, and the facts, as you have helped to show, do not back his claim.