Sweet, thank you so much guys! AmbientShade, I'm using Windows 8, and have V4, Elite, S4 and all the other under the original Daz Studio 3 runtime, so that may be the issue. Funny thing is, he says he hasn't had any problems with other characters as far as I remember. I'll point the customer to this forum so he can read this. He says he's not new and has been doing this for a long time, so that really had me stumped since no one has ever had a problem with my characters (except someone who made a mistake lol).

Medzinatar, OMG that is so beautiful!! Thank you so much! copied that image and added to my "other people's renders of my girls" collection! I don't have Iray and DS installed on this laptop (I do have DS on my desktop though). Iray is very expensive and I'm hearing it takes way too much time to render so it's just not worth it to me, so I'm simply sticking to Poser and may get Reality for Poser if I get a stronger laptop.

Fremmen, thank you for testing her! That render looks good too :)

...wolfie