ssgbryan posted at 10:40PM Fri, 11 November 2016 - #4289783

qaz posted at 9:17PM Fri, 11 November 2016 - #4289780

At present many more people use Daz Studio than Poser. It's free. What would you expect. If you look at the Reality PBR web site, you will see that there are 5 times as many posts from Studio users than Poser users, and that despite Daz Studio having an in built PBR app for quite some time now. Poser users have been content to use V4 and the huge legacy content designed for her. Daz users have had to buy genesis, then Genesis 2 then Genesis 3 and with each release a regurgitation of the same clothes. How many vendors produce Gen 2 products now ? Daz users probably end up paying more than Poser users. However, that doesn't matter. Sex sells, and V7 is far sexier than any Poser figure. Don't get me started about Pauline.

If you are going to attract new users to Poser, you need to offer at least the same access to state of the art figures.

Superfly is starting to get there, and if the next Poser can include shadow catching and instancing that will be attractive. However Poser cannot continue to rely on a 10 year old figure. It desperately needs a decent figure. SM seem completely incapable of producing one. Hopefully Erogenesis will finally complete his figure in 2017 and there will be a decent competitor to V7.

What makes you think people would buy Poser if the "state of the art figure" was actually included

But what is a "decent" figure? Everyone has a different view on that. My definition of a decent figure is one that is realistically proportioned and realistically sized. DAZ figures are freak shows with literally inhuman proportions. Go look at the size of the eyes - there is literally no place to put the brain. Look at the armpits - the same problems with V2 are in V7. That torso? Please. It is why my go to figures are the SM G2 figures - I don't give a rat's ass how they bend, because they keep their clothes on.

There are a lot of folks here that simply will not accept any figure that wasn't made by DAZ. Never in a million years would they apply the standards they give for rejecting a non-DAZ figure to any of the Vickeys.

Many others want everything handed to them, and are aggressively unwilling to spend 5 minutes of their time to adjust anything. They don't want to RTFM and figure anything out for themselves.

That being said - Project E could fit the bill.

"What makes you think people would buy Poser if the "state of the art figure" was actually included" If it does/has things V7 can't, and it's free. But of course bottom line, they sure as heck wont if Poser doesn't have that. The figure itself isn't enough, but if it is well supported and some decent morphs are produced, then you are off the ground. For instance I have had people begging me to release a particular morph I did a few years ago. What if that and others were only available for a Poser figure ?