I think Dustrider's point was that Iray and the way the materials are handled is just easier to use and get a nice result if you're new to them than Superfly is. That's all ;). I can't speak to Superfly because I've never used it. I never upgraded to Poser 11 either. And I'm watching, just like Dustrider too :). However, if Superfly is anything like the materials in Firefly then it would literally take me years to get used to them. No lie. I never understood Firefly's material room either until BB kicked me in the head with a material and gave me an "aha!" moment. LOL

Laurie