Oh goodness, Marque, I sure would love it. I have tried 3dcafe and looked all through there, not found. Was just considering making one in either Imagine or Organica. And, the fact that it isn't posable is not an issue. I can make it so in ProPack. If you don't find it, I understand you probably have a lot -- to say the least -- of downloads to go through. I've been looking through old Zips being copied ot CD-Rs and find stuff I D/L'ed in 1996! Thanks in advance. Larry F