I thought about just downloading DAZ 4 already and switch back and forth, I'll pass on buying Poser 11, I heard it's ass from a lot of people that use it. I might try Poser Pro 2014 but render wise, I'm investing in Octane eventually. Forget firefly, that weak ass shit is elderly slow. And they call themselves innovators. Octane uses the graphic card, mine is a GTS 950, if I got 1050 oh yeah stupid fast renders.