sorry I'm a noob and that didn't make sense. I really need a good tutorial on where Daz puts stuff and how to find it. I'm getting really frustrated. I really don't think those items were in the pull down menus the first time I looked, and suddenly they are. Now I can't find expressions I installed. Looks like I am putting them in the correct areas but somehow they don't show. I spend more time trying to find things than actually creating. I'm about to give up. Edited to say, looks like the poses for some reason are under the poser pull down menu. Really confusing. I guess between the refresh option and looking at each directory, I'll eventually find what I installed. Need to go in and categorize and add metadata now. thanks everyone.