hey bh if it were me in the header, Id feel a bit attacked too. Please dont get off track with the discussion you started. I really enjoy the banter this topic always starts. One has but to look at the number of comments to see this is a REAL issue to users. Im sure that daz and dsi see it as such too. please..please dont start something that isnt intended. this is a real discussion..if you start with the 'backoffs' it will move to c&d and thats not where this goes. I would like to see the skygirl/pokeydots thing removed from the string (moderators? please?) to let this be what it really is..not a questioning of a person's idea..but of a model. come on..really? BT