Well Gee I just checked my account at Autodesk and the last update for 3ds Max as part of the Building design Suite Premium is SP3; thanks Autodesk. Of course I'm surprised I can still access the account since the subscription has lapsed. I'm just going to live with it and be thankful I can legally use 3ds Max 2014 and 2017 till the day I die without giving Autodesk another penny. I have the 2014 version because when I migrated to the Building Design Suite Premium from just AutoCAD and 3ds Max Design subscriptions to save about $500 on my subscription costs Autodesk wouldn't give me any kind of price break so I let one subscription lapse and migrated one. My son's happy though; he gets to use my 2014 version.