Dohh!! That probably is why the colours have been lowered, and I also cant get the firms austere and stupid logo off my desktop. How did they know? George Orwell was right about TOO many things. The copy of Poser installed on the pc was one I purchased for the Mac legit about a year ago, I have a receipt and a serial number. I downloaded Peri on the 4th of June 2000, free, and have not purchased same or offered the file for sale. Technically I should not have taken them on discs to work but I just had to hoon with the pc and see what it could do my favourite file and application. My diary for that time says that I had in fact arranged to have both on the network that week for just that purpose, with the admins full knowledge and sort-of permission, so it wasnt an illegal installation on the network at all. As I write the dual platform CD is back in my office, the 1.4 now has a Powerpoint on it and the maintainance people have seen to the HD. Its just a total bummer I couldnt see it at 100 percent.