So true Jack. I have had numerous ocassion to track down so-called "anonymous" Ip's and have never failed. running more than a few popular forums along with some for two different well known (though one is not very well liked but the money is good) web space providers I get more than my share of ones who think they are safe using "anonymiser" services. It is too easy and always gives the one responsible a good jolt of reality when they are traced. And every one of them claim to be innocent and a victim of foul play. Yup, they feel safe for a while until they get caught. Go get the one called CrazyBill. Let me know if you wish a hand as I have one forum with an incredible amount of talented web development people and they love to do such things. They make it a contest and the winner gets points which accumulate until the end of the year and the one with the most points gets a LEGAL copy of a software for their acumen.