Thanks Lobo the hdr image and background image lends a lot towards the darkness. Which does cover up a few things which I like. A lot of things are not how I originally wanted them as in the loin cloth started out as modelled chain mail and the treed back ground was first up modelled and imported obj's but when I started to hit 20,000,000 + vertices my old machine started having hissy fits. As it was this image took near on 40 hours to render.

Incantrix