Yes I did exactly just that, & then saved to poser expression library. When I load, the expression changes, along with the morph. (in this case back Victoria 4.2 base figure's face) Yes just the expressions without all the variable dials, that's it :) I tried both morphs++ and just V4 base. Same result came, maybe I missed something there. It's really alright, I understand. Just need to figure out where I'm messing it up, feels like there's an easy crucial step I'm just missing only. Thanks a lot :)