Very nice Blackhearted...I like both of them :). How did you do Dina's nose? That is the one area of her face that I can't get the way I want, but you've come pretty close :). BTW, I toned down the makeup from the last image. Gotta agree, there was too much. Blame my mother for that ;). Oh, and something else. I never said or wanted Dina to be a replacement for Vicky. I hope that never happens. I just think Dina's a nice addition to my toolbox :). And the Dina morphs will come, just wait and see. And I wholeheartedly agree with the transmap for Dina's eyebrows! If I thought I could make a better one, there'd be one in freestuff right now ;). Laurie