Nice to see this thread is doing well and not descending into a brawl. Personally I think they need to start by fixing the engine, I say fix in relation not to it being broken, but to building a good base for a new and frankly good male and female figure to be used in. I say this because if you look at Daz and how they implemented Genesis they first built in the weight mapping etc that allows Genesis to work in daz. Poser needs things like muscle attachments etc at its core to then have these new figures, along with a better face room, cameras, animation, hair, etc that need updating as they are woefully behind their competition. making poser free is not the answer, making it better is. will we see that? I hope so. And on a side note perhaps then if all that happens Iray and amd's new free render engine will support poser out of the box?

Getting old and still making "art" without soiling myself, now that's success.