wolf359 : I still box model in Basic C4D 9 "they changed basic to prime some where along the way" on windows 8.1 think is was made for xp I know one day a windows10 or what ever will not work .but to day textures stretch real bad on it. I'd advise not to use out dated or abandonware. TrueSpace was behind LW,C4D when it died so...

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