Folks advocating using DS and g figures believe that as an enduser, I should settle for their vision of "art". At the end of the day, there is a reason Poser users don't use DS - we've tried it (it's free, after all), and found it wanting.

Even if I was willing to stay in the pinup garden - why on earth would I drop $15 - $20 an outfit, when I can get literally hundreds of V4 outfits for $1.99 each (over at DAZ). JHC, Friday, I purchased almost $400 worth of V4/M4 content over at Daz for less than $60. Characters for 52 CENTS. Outfits for 79 CENTS.

What can I do with that? Run the clothing through the fitting room - now available for ANY figure I choose. AFA characters, harvest the skins, and they are also available for ANY figure I choose. And yes, I have purchased a number of characters just to harvest the skin textures.

Daz didn't do that 80% off sale for M4/V4 for folks that use the g figures, just like they did that DSON sale a few weeks back - they are chasing after Poser users.

Too many people here confuse vendors financial health with the software's health. Vendors come, vendors go. The reality is that most of them won't be missed - Sturgeons Law applies here, just as it does everywhere else.

IMO, Poser has been moving to DIYers' because of vendor intransigence. Too many vendors depend on their users having "learned helplessness" and accepting whatever the vendor deigned to make.

I'm working on a Star Trek TOS comic (for my own amusement). I need everybody in the same outfit. With Poser - everybody is wearing either the M4 Valiant or the V4 Courageous outfit. Daz native figures, Poser native figures, even figures I have imported via FBX.

Can't do that in DS, because the underlying tech only works with the g figures. And no, the g figures aren't a solution, again thanks to vendors (95% Caucasians don't work - need more ethnic variety - another reason to stay with a weight mapped, subdivided V4/M4, along with all of the others in my menagerie). I use whatever I need, and I am not limited by platform. G figures can easily be moved to Poser, whereas the opposite is not true.

And the same can be said for any other genre outside of pin up and/or fantasy. I pull clothing from all figures, because that is the only way I can dress my cast of characters.

Poser users are no longer dependent on whims of the vendor.

As a final note - I'd point out that to get Poser Pro levels of tools in DS, you are spending Poser Pro money for add-ons.