brycetech, you may be right about what happened between scan and finished model. Something we'll have to look at next time. Although I'd have to go back and look at the original scan to see if that's the case. At any rate, I have made morphs to lower the nose and the eyebrows a bit. They're in my morph package 1 at renderotica and grc free stuff. Gabriel, I really like the second image much better. That texture really captures the skin well except for the artificial highlights from the photographs which should be removed. But IMHO the blood vessels in the eyes are too dark and thick and there's something odd about the way the lips have been applied to the map. The wrinkles are running the wrong direction. BTW, a hint. Make the nostrils material a fairly dark grey-brown with a hint of red in it and you will get rid of the glowing nostril effect Poser has. Laurie, I have a black texture for Vicki that is not made totally from photographs, but has a good bump map that gives the skin a pretty realistic look. Check out LaTanya and see what you think.