What kind of freestuff are you talking about? Can you post any pictures? I did not say I didn't want you here, just that it is rude to make comments about other people's hard work. I have known Mehndi for a while, and she is meticulous about her models. If you feel the need to improve on them or make some of your own then you should do so. That's what this forum is all about, but I wouldn't start out by making statements on how anyone with a 3d program could do the same. Marque