RedPhantom posted at 10:36AM Thu, 25 January 2018 - #4323012

That's exactly the attitude I'm talking about. Ignoring people. I didn't say one person requested it. I said many people did, and they did it repeatedly. It stands to reason that if there are several requests, there is a demand for it.

one person was a generic term for a minority of people. If you've been a vendor for any time you don't go by what people say in forums, you go by actual sales numbers. Again, you're asking someone to risk the money they earn on the hope there's enough people willing to buy an item that hasn't proven its place in the market. That deserves some respect, not entitlement. There's been countless instances of people clamoring for something in forums saying that's demand then that only translates to 10-15 sales and vendors are left scrambling to figure out how they're going to eat for the month. It is what it is.

As for no input, it doesn't matter if there is or not. Both Hivewire and Ero were up front with what they were doing. They posted in forums and responded to comments. I know Ero has been bending over backward to work with vendors and make the figure as easy to work with as possible. I've been following the threads and have seen him ask the readers if they would prefer x or y. After receiving input, he made his decision and let people know and backed it up with reasoning. But it seems some vendors (and users) ignore everything said about a figure until the figure is released and then after the time for input is over, they choose to whine. And when all you see in the forums is the whining, of course people are going to be hesitant to get the figure, no matter how good it is.

Since you aren't a vendor you absolutely don't know what was said behind closed doors. Let's not speculate. I'm not going to go into that convo either because I wasn't there. Whether it was a misunderstanding or intentional, the end result is the same. It's going to have an effect on what a vendor makes. If rendo was expecting a dual release and they only got a demo, any work they did is now a loss as well. I know regular customers that just want content won't understand that. The rent is the ONLY thing important to a vendor, not some altruistic goal. A customer can be choosy with what they do, because they're not gambling with their work check. Vendors have to be choosy with what they make because it absolutely affects their income. Sometimes the customer and vendor goals are the same, sometimes they're not. But both sides have to understand how the market works, because the market is going to do what it's going to do.