You know, I really had hoped that someone would take the time to read my post and think about it rather than jump in with a knee-jerk response which skims over the surface and ignores the parts you don’t want to hear (or think about) because they don’t comply with your own opinions! Contrary to your belief, I do in fact pay a lot of attention to the things vendors say and have said. There’s a simple reason for that. I’m a working artist and have been for all my life, both as a traditional artist and, for the past fifteen years, in 3D and I intend to keep it that way. Why? Because I have a vested interest in seeing vendors succeed in their endeavour’s for no other reason than that, if they don’t work I can’t. There can be no reasonable argument against that regardless of which side of the Daz/Poser fence you sit on! At the end of the day it’s all about making the money you need to live so what’s the point in restricting your earning ability by catering to only one part of the market. That’s not good business sense. I make a lot of money from my work mostly on the traditional side and I’m pretty satisfied with what I’ve got, however, since I started working in 3D my earnings have increased by around 18% per annum and that makes me very happy indeed. Exactly the same argument applies to the situation vendors find themselves in because of what is, after all, an artificial situation created by a small, but vociferous group of people with their own agenda’s intent on fomenting ill-feeling when the majority of 3D users are happy to remain in the background and get on with their lives. Incidentally, you don’t need to make everything twice to produce for DS & Poser. The object, which is the basis for all 3D programs, is only made once. The differences come with the rigging, etc (if it’s anything other than a static prop), format and to a lesser degree, materials. I know that whilst not being a vendor so why doesn’t someone who claims to know what makes them tick? Perhaps paying closer attention and some basic research may help you formulate a more accurate response in future?