I'm a DAZ user that doesn't mind some poser stuff if I can use it by tweaking surface settings for iray, autofitting, etc so I generally don't pose a fit when I get something for poser but one purchase really got to me. The grab bag item turned out to be an outfit for poser (no big deal there) BUT it was, 1, for Victoria (yes that's right V1), 2, no longer available for purchase, 3, by a vendor not on the grab bag list and 4, the vendor is not even a vendor here anymore lol.