smiles Thank you all for your kind words about the Arch :) It should be out fairly soon. I am working on a backdrop kit to go with it, (if all goes well on that part) so that those of you who do not already own something like HManns excellent 3d Worlds stuff will have an environment to render it in. I hope to have it out before the end of the week, barring no sudden unexpected things I have to take care of. As to you mon petit wgreenlee1... well! ;) {{{{{"any little threed app and a uv mapper and anyone can make these archway thingys..." ...."but we can all strive to not only mimic her designs but improve on them and explore the possiblitys of creation"}}}}} I am often mimiced ;) It is the sincerest form of flattery they say. They say. I suspect "they" just needed an excuse to mimic. chuckles Be careful wgreenlee1. Your typing style is very distinctive, and I am certain that more than me recognize that typing style and recall someone who typed just like you in the past. Come outside of your clone body and speak on what you would like to mimic, and how easily anyone can mimic me, then I will talk to you man to man so to speak ;) Till then, I shall remain a lady and not spit on you, even to put out your fire :)