Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: Confirming to dynamic

jamminwolf opened this issue on Apr 08, 2018 ยท 29 posts


3D-Mobster posted Mon, 09 April 2018 at 4:22 AM

jamminwolf posted at 10:36AM Mon, 09 April 2018 - #4327727

3D-Mobster posted at 11:36PM Sun, 08 April 2018 - #4327724

I think to sum it all up, learning 3d is non stop, it never ends, you are always in a learning process, no matter how good you become. :D

Oh I know quite well that there's no ending to learning 3D, been about 10 or 11 years since I started (with DS) and never quit learning. Though I quit for a few years but got back into it. And now that I'm planning on getting a new computer with updated DS and Poser, G3/G9, Dawn and Dusk, and all that jazz, I'll be learning so much more cause I'm so outdated (I'm an oldie haha).

Hmmm... the modeling program. Scary. I'll try the free one and get my hands wet. Might just not be in my bag though as I've never had any interest in modeling, just character creations, and as you can see I turned V4 into a kid (even way before S4 came out, made a few more before Tindra Thompson was released).

Thanks for your insight, sir, and I'll be waiting for your dresses :)

BTW I just bought your bedroom and breast morphs. The breast morphs gives you reasons to make more dynamic cloths hint hint LOL

...wolfie

You can get very far with character creation as I can see from the stuff you made. Especially if you combine it with Zbrush which is perfect for making morphs to be used in Poser. It also have a build in texturing tool so you can paint directly on you 3D model and with GoZ in Poser its easy to transfer the changes back again.

Regarding the breasts morphs, but basically any female character whether its V4, G8 whatever. And whether its dynamic or conforming cloth, the problem is that these character usually come with breasts where the default value (0) actually give the character curves. So most cloth gets designed for a character with this minimum breast size. Which means that the clothing item have this volume build into them by default. But most clothing in real life, except maybe a bra, is not designed that way. Which in my opinion can cause problems, especially with dynamic clothing, because the moment you reduce the breast size the extra fabric is still hanging around and doesn't disappear, which will make the clothing look unnatural, but also very unpredictable, and you basically get this issue whenever you reduce the size of a character, but simply designing the cloth for no breasts, will greatly improve this. So for dynamic cloth you should always make the clothing with no breasts at all in my opinion. Its a bit easier with conforming cloth, but I still think it causes issues, especially as you make morphs to the breasts, because the mesh of the conforming cloth still have the default shape build into them and therefore morphs are not always correctly transferred, so you have to morph your way out of it.

It would make a lot more sense I think if all clothing were designed for a character with the lowest breast size possible, as I think it would make the cloth much more flexible when it comes to changing a characters base shape. Simply because for a female character the breasts is a part that can change quite dramatically in a very small area whereas a basic male character is much more standard in shape.

And with the copy morphs... functionality in Poser (Not sure which version it were added) conforming cloth shouldn't really come with any body morphs, people should simply copy them from the character using the transfer tool, as it will copy all morphs that they might have. (Obviously depending on which version it were added. As some of the older versions of Poser might not have it.) The only morphs that should really be needed for conforming cloth are fixes and functional ones. But I assume its a leftover from old days of doing things, to be honest, and users and vendors have not really adapted to the changes in newer Poser versions, so you still see most if not all conforming cloth with a huge list of basic morphs for the characters they are intended for like "Thin", "Bodybuilder" etc. But I really don't think its needed, if the cloth were designed for the lowest breast size and people simply got used to just copying the characters morphs to the cloth and checked the 3 check boxes, so it automatically adjust it self with the character changes, it would make much better clothing in general I think.

Got a bit off topic.... yes dynamic cloth = good, love it give a character a lot of life I think :D