I started in 2010 and picked up both DAZ 3.0 advanced and Poser, I think it was 8 at the time but I'm not going to swear to it. Both were paid programs at the time (DAZ had a free version, you had to pay for advanced, and it was about the same cost as Poser. I paid for both and upgraded both programs until DAZ turned around and made DAZ 4 free for all versions (and I was one of the people going "Um, Guys..." since I had just paid for the Pro version). Poser I stopped upgrading in 2014 because by then I had stopped using it.

What I find interesting is that DAZ users were in the same position here in 2010 that Poser users find themselves in now. Pretty much nobody tested products in DAZ, you bought them "hoping" they would work with no support from the vendor. I feel their pain. Really.

But in the end the people who are letting them down isn't DAZ, Renderocity, or the vendors at either place - who is letting them down is Smith Micro, who aren't even pretending to listen to their customers these days. On their own forums. With any kind of marketing. Or by updating Poser in any meaningful manner.

Which is pretty much what this thread is about.

It's no longer about which is better: Daz Studio or Poser. Who cares? It's about if Smith Micro is going to wake up. And the signs are not good.