I'd spot it to you anyway. You do more than your share of good deeds around here. :) I'm waiting for a reply from Daz, but I don't expect much. And no, I don't want waste any more time on that. It no longer matters to me. I turned on the Iray noise filter and set the degrain slider to clean up the render output. I started working with interactive render for faster output. I'm experimenting with a few other little things and am now very happy with Iray. It's time to populate my gallery.