Seconded! This is probably going to turn into a wish list. However, Like you Jim I would settle for a decent raytracer, possibly as an extra to the existing limited, but fast, engine. I would love lots of other extras too like collision detection but these might be better delivered as plug-ins rather than version upgrades. One thing I would dearly love to see Curious Labs do is change the Library structure to one that resembles the Windows "open folder dialogue box." My libraries are so full that scrolling down through them takes an age. I am sure that this could be simply implemented as the Library operation uses the existing Windows structure merely putting an interface over it. But please CL, like Jim asks give us something rather than nothing, or at least give us a date in order to save up our Poser Pennies. Regards STORM