Penguinisto posted at 4:50PM Sun, 27 January 2019 - #4344353

AmbientShade posted at 12:56PM Sun, 27 January 2019 - #4344034

If you expect all that, then what's the damned point? Just stick with V4.

You can!

Well, you can until DAZ gets tired of giving away the base mesh, and pulls it from their site. Then what? Sure, those who have it can keep it, but any newbies are kinda screwed... and all that V4 stuff will still be out there.

As long as Poser is still around I doubt they'll do that. They still make money every time someone buys V4, so why would they?

Content artists are not coders. So without the tech being built directly into Poser, or a 3rd party script, it would flat out be illegal for content artists to try doing that.

Fun trivia: You are correct, but at the same time not quite: Nothing prevents a content artist from providing those scripts, or a coder from doing so. Poser's entire history is packed with people who have done this. shrug

Again, most content artists are not coders. Sorry for not attaching the 'most' modifier to the previous statement for clarification. Yes Poser has a long history of 3rd party scripts. Some of them are now even built into Poser. And yet people still complain.

A lot of that old content would - and does - look like crap on a modern figure anyway.

True, to a point, but you're telling all those folks who have all those thousands of bucks sunk into all those meshes, textures, morphs, whatever... to go spend more.

So your answer to all of us who have been around forever, is 'too bad - wait until we make enough stuff for the new figure, and then buy it.' ?

Meanwhile, Over in you-know-where, their latest figure lets me use all of my old V4 stuff, and it works incredibly well.

Awesome. Then why aren't you over there using it instead of spending your time over here telling everyone how Poser will die if it doesn't make a seamless way for a 3rd party figure (of which Poser's devs and parent company have zero license to do anything with) fully compatible with any potential new figure? The compatibility currently offered is about as close as its going to get. We have the fitting room, and wardrobe wizard and cross dresser. We even have texture transformer from blacksmith3D. How much more should there be? The reason Daz can make all of that old content work with the latest genesis figures is because they own the rights to all of it, so they can do whatever they want with it. They don't own the clothing meshes, but they own the rigs that make those clothing meshes work. They own the figure meshes, which in turn means they own the UV maps, so they can make those maps compatible with their current figures if they choose, or give permission to someone who can do the job for them.

Long term users with terabytes worth of V4 content really isn't the target audience of new figures, unless that audience wants figures that have more versatility than V4 has in terms of functionality, multi-platform use, etc. Newer figures are designed to take advantage of newer features and tech. And really when it comes down to it, the content market requires new figures and people investing in those new figures and content for them, in order to keep going. There've been several figures come along already that had potential to become the new best thing for Poser, but the vast majority refused to use them because they aren't compatible with their decade-old catalogue. And as a result the content market has shrunk considerably. Then those same people want to complain on the Poser forums that there's no content for Poser anymore. And this is why artists like myself and others have mostly decided 'screw it', why waste our time trying to provide something to a community that doesn't want it because it doesn't have the daz name attached? I'll just do my own thing and y'all can go down with the ship that you decided to help burn.