stallion opened this issue on Jan 29, 2019 ยท 1258 posts
ssgbryan posted Sat, 09 February 2019 at 10:24 AM
Blackhearted posted at 7:48AM Sat, 09 February 2019 - #4345683
Everything to create ethnic morphs is already in the base figure. I even made a specific epicanthic fold morph (EyesAsian) so that Asian eyes would be easy. This is just 5 minutes of dialing some of the included dials, it can be refined much further and combined with the body handles, morph brush, etc.
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This is why I don't understand the 'another Caucasian character' grumbling a few people posted. There are morphs to make other ethnicities and you can get a lot of skin tone variation by just tweaking the existing shaders and/or modifying the existing base texture in Photoshop and it's totally redistributable: so you could put the resulting character in freestuff or even sell it in the marketplace. In fact I'm totally baffled why nobody has done this already O_o
Miki was ok, my problem with her was SM blowing their entire figure dev budget on a baked 4' tall Asian character that you couldn't morph other ethnicities out of for a Poser market that is desperately starved for a pair of quality, flexible base figures.
Miki is 5' 2" tall by the Poser scale. The average Asian woman stands 5' 2". The SM G2 series were designed as NORMAL sized people, to be used in typical every day situations. They were not designed to be used for Poser Porn. That is why we still see them in American Airlines brochures, at the local automated check out counter, etc.
If I load all of my morph sets for a G2 figure, they are as morph heavy as any fully loaded V4. What they didn't have was the extensive cottage industry of products to fix defects in the base figure than the Daz figures had.
BTW, there is a LOT more to an Asian character than the eye fold (and yours doesn't look very much like any Asian I have dated, seen, talked to, or worked with over the past half century - try getting actual black eyes, for starters). I would suggest that you look at actual Asians. The Japanese don't look like Chinese and they don't look like Koreans, who don't look like Singaporeans, who don't look like Filipinos, and I can go on and on. What vendors deliver is the idealized (from a Caucasian perspective) of what a generic Asian woman should look like. Which is why we get all of the tall, creepy, blue-eyed Asians. Or the Africans that look like Caucasians with a bad tan, rather than realistic black textures, and more creepy blue eyes. There is a reason my black goto figures are all from 1 vendor (reciecup). She can acually dial spin a realistic black character with a realistically black skin texture. I think the fact she is black helps a lot.
BTW, body proportions will also be different based on age and diet. Try dialing in a 5' 0" 90lb Filipino, or a Korean that was born before 1980 sometime - good luck. Try dialing Dusk out of his Fabio base mesh - not happening. Or try dialing in someone that is approaching obesity (i.e. your typical American). Everything goes to crap. I don't keep Rikishi and Apollo Maximus (or any other legacy figure) around out of nostalgia - If I need to get outside of a Logan's Run mindset, I need more options than are what has come in the Post V4 era.
I loved the SM G2 figures. I have hundreds of characters for them - but then I got out of the pin-up cul-de-sac after my 1st 6 months of owning Poser. By the time Poser 6 rolled out, I was ready to move on. There were 2 base line Caucasians (Jessi & Sydney) and toward the end of the G2 era we got Olivia. Bodies were the same, the heads were different. Jessi & Sydney morphs also work on Miki. Try dialing down any of these 6 foot base line figures to reach 5'2". The only one you can remotely do it with is V4 with the SP4 proportion morphs. Can't dial down the golum btw either - a full -100% gets you down to 5'6" - still too tall.
As a final observation - If I have to do all of the dial spins, make the skin textures, spend 3 or 4 hours adjusting body proportions - why do I need Poser vendors?