Why was this thread necro'd from 2016? It's 2019 and a lot of what's talked about is outdated to have any discussion about it.. especially since DS has the denoiser in the beta (not sure if it's in the official version yet)

Also the solution to grainy renders is to properly light the scene, which everyone was learning how to do back in 2016 versus what they've been used to doing in biased renderers like 3Delight.