it wouldnt matter if you had a kick vid card or not,bryce is slow and thats going to cost them some big time customers,i think i shouldve got vue4 and saved myself hours of sitting at the computer just waiting for a default rendring to finnnnnnnally get done then just to find that i need to change the lighting or a model or a cloud or whatever,i even got out my old vue2 last night and played with it to see something move,corel is going to lose on this uhoh because i for one will not buy bryce 6 unless the give me some kind of upgade for "free"to fix it,if they dont do it then im gone to e-on software who practically begged me to buy vue4 just before i bought bryce5,and what really tops this of is that my manual came with missing pages so i emailed corel and asked them if i could at least get a pdf manual and they gave me a bunch of crap about going the ones who sold it to me.............so i liked bryce 4 and i still use it but five is like watching two turtles race uphill,in a 100 mile headwind,on spilt oil,with two fifty gallon barrels of molasses stapped to thier backs