NO...you misunderstood, or didn't fully read. It is not a radial/spot light I am having trouble with...it is the SUN/SHADOW settings inside the SKYLAB. It is the SUN itself. And as far as "wgreenlee1" goes... Well...that doesn't answer my question, and...I cannot altogether agree with your opinion on Bryce 5. I had a chance to play with a co-workers PC, whom had both Bryce 4 and Bryce 5 together on the same PC. I created a scene in Bryce 4, and rendered it in 56 seconds. I then re-created the same scene absolutely exactly in Bryce 5, and it rendered...in 63 seconds. I also took Bryce 5, opened the scene first made in Bryce 4, rendered it, again 63 seconds. This makes Bryce 5 about 8% slower than Bryce 4. That amounts to a little less than an extra 5 minutes per hour added to rendering time from version 4 to 5. This was just my experience with 4 vs. 5. Now, where this comparision ends is when you increase the quality settings in Bryce 5. Yes, you will absolutely get slower rendering times, no doubt. I have demo-ed Vue 4, I do not like it myself, but that is just purely my taste talking. I think it is a very good product but I have also read from 3D artists who dwarf my knowledge and expertise that the rendering times of Vue 4 are about the same if you jack up the settings to match Bryce 5. As far as you getting a Bryce 5 manual that had pages missing....? I would think that your Bryce 5 CD should have a .pdf copy of it on it, Corel knows this and I'm sure that is why they would not send you one. Now can anyone answer my original question? AgentSmith

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