EClark, JohnDoe, between you , you have shown the problem. When people say the devs should listen to suggestions, they mean listen to their suggestions. I hated the direct manipulation tool before it was changed, tried it and never used, but now use it frequently. So what happens? JD asks for it to be changed back, they change it back. Then I ask for them to change it back again etc. And this is what leads to these heated discussions on forums, if someone makes a suggestion others feel they must put forward their opposing view or else the devs might believe everybody likes the suggestion and listen and do something about it, which will change things for the worse for them. It's said a camel is a horse designed by committee, for poser not to become a misshapen camel, the devs and owners need to have a clear vision of where they are taking it, yes listen to the general direction people want to go, incorporate good ideas that are suggested which help moving poser in the correct way, but don't let other cause them to deviate from their chosen path.