Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: erogenesis and a new future for Poser @ Rendo

erogenesis opened this issue on Jun 21, 2019 ยท 70 posts


Richard60 posted Sun, 23 June 2019 at 7:28 PM

While I have no doubt the some of the old team used Poser they did not use it very far off of center values. As an example open Poser 10 and put two cubes in the scene. Actually could be anything but a cube is simple. Now there are at least THREE different ways to move the cube. Grab it in the Posing window and move, open the parameter palette and dial a value or open the graph editor and adjust the graph line. All 3 will make a key frame and move the cube. This is the basic single layer not much off of what Poser starts as. Now the fun part, add an additional layer to the mix and change it to ADD mode. With two layers (Base and layer 1) you can move the cube in the base layer with any of the 3 options above. however going to the new layer Layer-1 you can only move it with the Pose window and dials. The graph gets locked up. If you add another layer Layer-2 then the Layer-1 dials no longer work and neither does the graph. The basic problem best as I can work it out at least for the dials is that you move the dial and it tries to add in the value of the dial (which should be Zero to start), however since a couple of other layers have values they are all added together and it skyrockets. And it is easy to get lots of layers as every time you apply the walk designer t askes if you wish to put it on another layer and of course that really is a good idea so it makes it easy to delete and retry if it turns out wrong. But as soon as you have the extra layers trying to make adjustments on anything other then Base or Top most layer becomes difficult at best. Work around is to move the layer to the top or select replace mode and Current Layer Only, however that results in figures moving to different locations if you use a layer as a setting point (which I do). Or it makes the other figures stay frozen as their layer is not included in the playback.

As I said earlier Poser 9 had a couple of problems 10 got worse and 11 was even further messed up. And I did file reports on the issues I had and a couple of the problems were fixed like the Black and Red lines being reversed. But beside that the main point I am trying to make is that the code in Poser is so convoluted that there at least THREE paths to change the value of a channel and they each use different code paths so that you may fix one path but break the other two. So a lot of the further enhancements requested will probably conflict with other code currently in Poser and rewriting that code may break someone's favorite thing and cause a mass up roar of Poser Users.

Poser 5, 6, 7, 8, Poser Pro 9 (2012), 10 (2014), 11, 12, 13