I thought I'd only see "completely personal opinions" being claimed to be FACTS in uneducated-level political discussions on Facebook - alas, I'm disappointed to see this spread.

Qaz, "she's ugly out of the box" CANNOT, ever, be a FACT - because "ugly" is subjective. V4 was the most successful figure and I spent years before I could get her to not be what I think is ugly. La Femme on the other hand, first time I loaded her into Poser, rendered her in the default lights and I legit gasped - seriously, my husband asked me what happened. I thought she was absurdly beautiful. Out of the box. Under Poser's default ugly lights.

Bottom line is, you speak as if an entire figure should be completely made to suit YOUR aesthetic tastes, and that's just... I'll refrain from saying what this feels like to me, because I don't want to be rude.

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Feel free to call me Ohki!

Poser Pro 11, Poser 12 and Poser 13, Windows 10, Superfly junkie. My units are milimeters.

Persephone (the computer): AMD Ryzen 9 5900x, RTX 3070 GPU, 96gb ram.