AmbientShade posted at 10:32AM Tue, 25 June 2019 - #4354677

FlagonsWorkshop posted at 12:26PM Tue, 25 June 2019 - #4354675

It doesn't have to be Genesis 8. It has to be a type of object that allows you to do that though. It can be an entirely different system, the end result is all I care about.

Poser can already do that, and has been able to since at least Poser 9/2012. Look at the gorilla for Dusk. Just one example. The reason you don't see more of it is because most won't take the time to learn how to use the tools, so people just assume Poser can't.

I'm not saying it can't so much as I'm saying it isn't being done. I'm not going to take the time to learn the tools, I'm going to take the time to write comics. I pay the vendors to take the time to do that type of thing. I take the time to learn to use the tools in the program I need to get my workflow done, that doesn't include dropping everything and creating a character every time I need one. Over at DAZ you have PA's creating that type of content. On the Poser side you don't. That's part of the problem that needs to be fixed if you want wider usage of Poser.

Back when I started in 2010 as a DAZ user you would look at all the content made for Poser and drool because half of it couldn't be used in DAZ. Particularly the cool stuff making extensive use of Shader Nodes. Or Dynamic cloth. Or the whole freaking Terradome system, man I hated I couldn't use that. Now the situation is reversed with Poser users looking at all the cool stuff they can't use and complaining about it.

And I blame a lot of that on Smith Micro Marketing and the fact they never really were comfortable marketing to end users. It's never been their bag. So while Poser was moving forward, you never saw items using it. I'm assuming that Poser is capable of doing pretty much anything DAZ can do. Some things one program will do better than the other, it's the nature of the thing.

If the goal is to expand Poser's customer base, the issue is going to have to be addressed. The average new user is going to have to visualize what can be done with Poser, and that will include items they can buy.

Over at DAZ, the latest addition is strand based hair. It looks cool, it looks like it will take a lot of time to learn, and if you read the comments, while there are some people interested in learning how to use it, the vast majority are waiting for the PA's to put out products made with it.

So to cut to the chase, I think it's wonderful that Hivewire has made a gorilla out of Dusk. Now also come out with a duck man, a frog man, an ogre, an imp, who can all wear the same clothes and you've made a convert out of me. Now I have some specialized needs, and I'm sure other people are going to be looking for something else, but that's where the whole thing needs to head if the user base is going to be broadened for Poser.