RobZhena posted at 1:56PM Sun, 30 June 2019 - #4355527

DarksealStudios posted at 1:26PM Sun, 30 June 2019 - #4355459

Anyone who thinks rigging can replace JCMs doesn't know about rigging. Anyone who doesn't know why a Thigh JCM appears on more than the thigh doesn't understand JCMs.

I agree poser needs some work. Could they have tested their figures out more? Of course. Honestly I do not think SM EVER used Poser to make a figure themselves from start to finish because of all the bugs that could be found in the versions and updates released... But I also think that the reason, the main reason, poser users go to daz is Poser fails to make a "flagship figure". Make 1 male, 1 female, and update that one figure so all items/clothing/skin can be used in the future. Having a new set of figures every release, never updating them, never fixing them, never supporting them themselves, has led down a dark path of "no good figures". There really is nothing wrong with the existing poser figures as a "1.0" release version. They almost never take it to a 2.0, and 99% of the time never to a 3.0. Miki is the only thing I can think of that went that far and I don't see massive improvements. What's worse is they relied 100% on end consumers to generate content. I don't mind this, being a content developer myself, but spending an extra $1000 on a professionally made HD skin for one of their figures could have gone a Long LONG way to show what those figures could really be.

On a side note I hate that there is not superfly update to work with my new RTX card... but I use Octane plugin anyway.

SMS did update Paul and Pauline to 2.0. We got ethnic versions, and Pauline’s variants got makeup options. They fiddled a bit with Pauline’s geometry. I use them, though I would never claim that they are customer-drawing figures.

The problem is, they weren't supposed to be. As Tony pointed out, the figures that shipped with Poser were only supposed to be test figures. They worked with the program, which really, is all they were supposed to do. Every now and then, SM released a clothing pack for the figures, but real support was rare and fleeting. Plus, you could only get the figures if you bought the program. So SM and for that matter, Fractal Designs, MetaCreations, Curious Labs, E-Frontier, left market support up to third parties.