@Penguinisto:

Yes I hope they either just keep FF or even improve FF. I really think its worth having FF continue. I just fear with how super susceptible 3D CGI software is to trends rather than independent innovation and design, Firefly will be ditched in favor of the more trendy PBR render system, with as excuse that it will be 'too much maintenance'.

That said SF has a lot of potential but damn does it need work. Starting with simply recognising what is invisible in Poser... Even the external Octane can do that. But there are too many damn settings, more than a professional camera. However, if they get it to work as efficient as octane, that would be really good.

I don't think FF has an external variant but I think it could easily be made into one since FFRender.exe is separate from Poser.exe and it also works using RenderQueue. Not sure if there's any point though.

@SamTherapy: I honestly haven't noticed such heavy self-shadowing issues before as with P11. The first time I saw it was with one of my first renders with Evolution in p11. Reported it back then but nothing has changed since (unless they fixed it in P11.1 I wouldn't know. I still use SR8). But yeah I did go up and down with the shadow min bias from 10 to 0.001 and there was almost no difference. The simple fact that rendering the same scene in PP2014 fixed it gives me the feeling that there was some change in the workings of FF that was not tested properly (probably simply because SF received more focus, much like other lesser understood features in Poser never got tested professionally, I suspect).

@randym77: Yes, the tradeoff sharpness, SSS effect and time in FF is superior to SF IMO. FF's handling of IDL, transparencies, and caustics needs work though. Superfly is absolutely not fast if you want a razor sharp render, if you use CPU that is.

@willdial: Yes octane has been on my list for a long time. The tradeoff is the speed and quality, perhaps sacrificing the workflow a little with the extra settings and new materials. But its the pricetag that is stopping me, especially since I use Poser on 6 computers sometimes.

And yes, I hope they fix the self-shadowing thing. Please rendo, get Bondware to fix FF!

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