Hoi Darth, long time no ocean. Good to "see" you're still about and creative. Love your rendered info bits..... great work mate. I hear ye with computers being dissobedient and failing to llive up to their rep. My main just sucked in it's battery then died, Still have the HDs though soooo.... get an adapter and transfer... My laptop decided it wanted a permanent vacation, taking near all my generation 4-6 with it, I'm told the drive can be pulled and data transferred to my Terabox. It seems like as I go from 16bit to 64 bit, programmes I used a lot, no longer function. sigh Sorry for being aweay so long... a while ago (remember the troll wars here?) I was just too depressed to stay. Heh, thid is the first thread I've read in these forums for about 8 years. Keep your health and sense of humour my friend... Cheers