Yes, I did work with the collar, but I wasn't able to get the arm into position. (I was, however, able to completely mangle it--even with limits set to on). I haven't tried this with any other P4 figures, but this seems to me to be a real problem. The human arm can position the hand in just about any orientation in an entire octant of space, apparently Poser does not have that capability. Thanks for the suggestion. Cal