I'm not one for really getting into these flame-battles, but I read the previous post last night and saw this one this afternoon and was just curious enough to read some more. And while the guy is painfully new here - that last bit about the elimination of Game Dev is kind of true. He's got a point. If they are requiring Game Dev users to update to Poser 11, then they are taking away their version and my old version of Game Dev is also 10+ version number. So while this one doesn't really affect me since I upgraded to 11 when Smith released it, I have to ask why the blatantly contradictory statements from the moderator on this thing? The updater/download page does not have a special download for Game Dev - only Poser 11. So is Bondware just terminating Game Dev? I know a lot of people are still using it. Heck, it's still for sale in various outlets online. Just my two and a half cents.